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Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

David W. Walters — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:17:19 -0000

Stix thinks Obama is naive with respect to foreign affairs, yet McCain thought Iraq would be a cake-walk .......yeah, "serious denial Toe.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

toe — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:59:15 -0000

"Stix" with regards to your post #35 - James Yee. Read all about it. It was in all the papers. Where were you?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=James+yee&aq=f&oq=

"Stix"... you are in serious denial. Your narrow focus does not allow you to have a grasp of what has happened during this administration.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

ML Smith — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:55:34 -0000

Something is missing in all of this. Foreign policy aside, it seems that as a nation we have lost our way. That, fellow bloggers, is vey sad indeed. At the risk of being perceived as another wimpy liberal, we have forgotten where we came from.

America the Beautiful

I know the amber waves of grain exist, but they are far, far away...in a land still untarnished by progress, the thing we cherish most even if it comes at the expense of beauty.

The earliest settlers of our nation did not come simply to escape the hopelessness of oppression. They came because they had heard of a land almost too beautiful to imagine, a land of unlimited resources and opportunity. Despite the hardships that accompanied settlement in an uncharted land, they did something so monumental that schoolbooks cannot find the words to describe the miracle - they forged a new nation. The books our children read speak of farming, logging, trapping and a myriad of other endeavors requiring men and women to reach within for every ounce of will, sweat and toil. Sadly, they overlook an astounding miracle of creation. Imagine it for a moment. America. There can be no comparisons; the miracle is as unique as it is astonishing. It has never been duplicated...at any time, anywhere. From the heart and soul of man's imagination, a nation was created, forged in the image of dreamers; people willing to brave staggering adversity. America! A nation where a man could worship without fear. America! A nation where a poor man could become wealthy...a nation that allowed a man to speak his mind freely. Yes, America, new home of the brave and land of the free...a land of amber waves of grain and purple mountain’s majesty, a land that offered the impoverished and the disenchanted a fresh start.

July 4th celebrations can never do justice to the miracle. On that memorable day in 1776, a brash and determined population of colonists had the audacity to declare this nation's independence from tyranny. The events that led to that momentous declaration have been forgotten by many, but I remember them as if they happened yesterday. Why? My answer is simple - I can write this, and you can read it; without fear of that dreaded knock that has become engraved in history’s dark catalogue of oppression and terror.

The British believed that they could win a war by invading, pillaging and plundering everything that the people of this land had worked and died to create, a land that men of wisdom and foresight would ultimately protect with concise, powerful and beautifully written words. The words are still embedded in our culture, as they were intended. We know the words, but we have lost sight of the message. The result is painful to contemplate, for the “shoe is on the other foot,” and that foot is now too small for the shoe. The metaphor may seem oblique, but we are repeating the mistakes of our oppressors.

History proofs the equation; the futility of Britain’s attempt to invade. With more than ten times the military might and weaponry, they failed miserably. One might wonder how this was possible. There is no mystery to it - try to invade a man’s home and you will understand. Sadly, we have forgotten and no longer comprehend the power of belief; the awesome might of heart that causes people to defend the very values their predecessors sacrificed their lives to protect. Within that memory lapse lays the beast, for we selfishly assume that only our values are inalienable. The British made the same mistake and we drove them out with their tails between their legs. Hitler assumed and lost for the same reason. We assumed and paid dearly in Vietnam, but we are poor historians. The assumption has become reality again, as we invade, pillage and plunder just as His Majesty’s army attempted three centuries earlier.

Iraq may not have amber waves of grain or purple mountain’s majesty, but it has its own beauty, even though we are unable to recognize it. In the midst of its own civil war, the people of Iraq will eventually prevail, and until they do, sufficient reserves of belief in their values will protect them from the “Redcoats.”

“Adding blue and white does not make might right.” (ML Smith, 08-25-2008)

Our miracle has been tarnished. We are now the invaders, attempting to mold the world in our image. This might be welcomed if the image was consistent with that of others, but telltale signs to the contrary are everywhere. Take a close look, while you hold your breath, and you will see the signs on the New Jersey Turnpike as you pass through Elizabeth and Rahway. Miles of refineries pour out their poisonous stench from endless rows of smokestacks. Clearly, this was not what the early settlers of this country envisioned. But then they could never have imagined how important it would be to produce gasoline, a substance to which we are hopelessly addicted. Our dependence on internal combustion blinds us to alternatives that already exist, yet we continue to pay a high price for our unwillingness to change. Our freedom to drive gasoline guzzling automobiles enslaves us to tyrants who dine on caviar and pay billions for thoroughbred racehorses and arms that we willingly sell to them.

Whether we admit it or not, we have already invaded a land divided. We find it convenient to think of Iraq as a nation, but this is not reality. Iraq is a state, as is Iran, Dubai, and all of the imagined separated states that comprise the Middle East. Call it whatever you choose, but understand one thing; our invasion of Iraq is in fact an invasion of a nation that will fight to the death to protect what they "believe" they rightfully own.

Would Washington, D.C. look the other way if Iran invaded Connecticut? As a nation under our Gods, we worship consumption and we ignore the fact that our gasoline is refined from oil owned by a culture enraged; a culture compelled to protect, defend and attack if provoked.

People do not blow themselves to bits for no reason. As a nation, we have refused to question the reason. There is more to terrorism than the act itself. The behavior is sick and as such it is a symptom. When, I ask, do we attempt to cure the disease instead of attacking the symptoms? The disease may be terminal.

We have always been a nation of miracles. It is time...once again. §

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

Jesmi — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:05:22 -0000

Thank you for bringing such nice posts. Your blog is always fascinating to read.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

ML Smith — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:59:34 -0000

If only we could predict the future...

Three hours later, lost in the maze of the Web, I found myself on a dead end street with nothing to show for my efforts.
'Should I quit the search now?' I asked myself, "Or should I plunge ahead and hope for a miracle?'
I did what any rational and objective writer would do in such circumstances - I refined my search to “Political and Economic Fortune Tellers.” There were hundreds of sites. One caught my eye. “The country's political and economic systems will recover,” the blurb read.
Good news? How could I go wrong?

The site offered chats with

Raakman - The Only Legitimate Medium in the Field, Offering Crystal Ball Readings of the Highest Quality.

I typed in my inquiry and waited. Within a minute, a reply appeared.

“Hello. I am Rakmaan. Are you ready to begin?”
“Yes, I am ready,” I lied, fully prepared for the inevitable rip-off.
“Good. Do you wish to charge this to your Visa, MasterCard or American Express card?”
“Visa, but how much do you charge?”
“The initial fee is $49.95 for the first 15 minutes.”
Reluctantly, I gave him the Visa card number and waited, thinking that Rakmaan was a strange name for a Medium. I assumed this Medium was female. Rakmaan - a woman? Times are ‘a changin.’
“Alright,” she replied, “your card is fine. I am now looking into my crystal ball. I see…wait…ah, there is a large meeting, a press conference…very unusual. George Bush, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama, John McCain, Dick Cheney…they are all there. The public has demanded this. They want answers. It is not a debate. The politicians have agreed to work together. Wait…the President is speaking...I cannot make the words out clearly, but it is something about making the world safe for democracy and freedom. Oh! Hillary Clinton is standing. She is angry. I hear her clearly now…she says...
‘George, don’t you have anything new to say? We are all sick and tired of that line. At least I have a plan!’
Wait…wait…now Obama is standing. He says...
‘I don’t have a plan yet, but I will have one someday.’
"Wait…oh, this is shocking…I cannot believe…”
“Rakmaan, are you still there?”
“Yes. I can see clearly now. They have Pinocchio noses. I have never seen this. Wait…Bill Clinton is speaking...
‘This isn’t a soap box derby, Obama. Shut up.’
"There is a great deal of turmoil. Do you have a question?”
“Yes. Can you make a copy of this?”
It was a ridiculous question, but if she could, I would make millions. Sure, the tape would be bogus, and any expert could expose it as a hoax. Even so, it would sell. Pinocchio noses?
“Yes, I have USB ports on my crystal ball. Often, my clients wish to have copies. Sometimes the copies are hazy, but this one would be vivid. Oh…oh! Monit souris! Bill Clinton has just punched Obama. His Pinocchio nose is bent. All of the great leaders and politicians are fighting."
"Rakmaan, are you recording this?”
While I waited for her reply, I wondered about those words she used, "Monit souris." The last time I heard them, I was just a lad, maybe 12 or 13. My mother said it when the soup boiled over. The words were Yiddish, a colloquialism for "Big trouble." Rakmaan spoke Yiddish?
She came back on-line.
“Yes, I am recording. However, there will be an additional charge for the copy.”
“How much?” I typed in frantically.
“Wait...I see that order has been restored. No one is seriously injured. Oh, I am sorry. I forgot about your question. Give me a minute to calculate the charges.”
I waited, questionning how she could produce this copy. An editor could cut and paste something together. I could sell it to Saturday Night Live or Mad TV. The reply arrived.
“Well, your initial fee is $49.95. Since we went beyond 15 minutes, the extra charge is calculated at $20 per minute. We had 14 additional minutes, so that’s another $280. The total is $329.95.”
I had been taken for a $329 taxi ride.
"Now, the copy…well…I can provide it in color or black and white. Color is $8736. 95. How do wish to pay for this - credit card, certified bank check or money order?”
“How about food stamps?” I asked.
If I bought the copy, I would need them. I signed off. The price for stupidity is costly these days - roughly the same as next year’s price for a gallon of gasoline. ¨

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

dtowns67 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:42:58 -0000

Who would've thought that McCain would be the one with a sense of humor in this race?

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

Jarrodm — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:45:58 -0000

Simonesdad2008

I don't care who you, Powell, or Toe vote for. I just care about the truth. That was a very good link thanks for it. You people just don't get it do it.

I relize that not everyone is going to agree on who is going to make the better president. I'm never going to tell anyone who they have to vote for. But I sure as heck want to make sure that I have the facts of both sides, not just lies and opinions.

Yes I voted for Bush, and I would do it again right now. Again is he perfect no, but I believe that history will show that he has lead us through some very hard and difficult times, times that are only going to continue untill we get serious on fighting extermist, and terrioist. My fear is that some day we will turn are back on the rest of the world, and that is the day that evil will set in and we will be to late to stop it. Just like Britan and Eruope ignored Hitler, and with out the US would have never been stopped. Who is going to stop these extrimist if we turn our back?

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

simonesdad2008 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:28:19 -0000

So you actually thought about it before you decided to inflict George Bush, who you presumably liked, on this country, twice? Now you want to do more damage with a candidate you don't like? Yeah, you guys are soooo smart.

Here's a real resume builder:
http://www.military.com/opi...

And I want to see you tear apart Colin Powell when he endorses Barack.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

Jarrodm — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:08:21 -0000

a resume builder LMFAO I have to remember that one Stix.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

stix1972 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:00:54 -0000

Toe
Really, I want to know one American citizen that was wiretapped and brought off to GITMO or anyother detention center. Really where do you get this crap from. The wiretaps are of foreign terrorists talking to terrorists in the US. If you are not a terrorists, then you have no problem. They do not care what you and I are talking about with our friends unless those friends are known terrorists.
Hell, they knew about Ata during Clinton's administration, but couldn't do anything about it because that wall that Gorelic put up between the FBI and CIA. So are you going to say the same things you are saying about Bush and Cheney about Clinton, beacuse he had warrantless wiretaps also. So get off the "high horse".

I could care less what gays and lesbians do in their own houses. To each thier own. But do not force you lifestyle down out throats.

Yes there are many conservatives that are unfaithful and are morally corupt, but when they are found out they are thrown under the bus, ala Obama's grandma and Rev. Wright, but to the Dems that is just a resume builder.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

Jarrodm — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:44:34 -0000

Simonsdad:
    I'm not sure what your point is, other then your upset because I just showed that Conservatives on this board do think, and this is evidenced by the fact that we are willing to say when we disagree with McCain, and that we don't hold him up and whorship him as perfect.

Toe,
   As always a lot of talk and not substance. How about some evidence that the US spied on an American citzen (That was not a suspect) and dragged him off to Gitmo with no evidence. You show me some proff of this and I will be the first one to get up in protest about it.
   I have never gotten on any high horse and claimed that all conservatives hold some moral high ground. Their are plenty of conservatives that have done very un moral things. But you do have to admit that it is funny that as much as you all hate Bush you can't seem to find a way to impeach him for made up war crimes, yet it took not much effort to impeach bush for not being able to keep it in his pants.
I don't think that it is so much that Conservatives believe that all life is sacred, I think that it is all inocent life is sacred. Mass murders hardly count as inoccent life. I have no problem with the concept of an eye for an eye. I do how ever believe that we need to redo our Justice system, because I do believe that to many people are behind bars that don't belong their, and to many people that should be their have walked free.
No one is asking for legislation against Gay's and Lesbians Toe. We are just asking for "marriage to reamina between a man and a woman"

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

toe — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:19:54 -0000

will there ever be a time when conservatives can understand that they speak out of both sides of their mouths??
when it comes to "keeping government out of our lives" conservatives have no problem with wanting to enact laws: that allow the government to snoop, wiretap, and snatch and grab american citizens of america and declared an "enemy combatant" without due process,
you want government out of your life, but cannot stop yourselves from wanting to legislate against gay and lesbian couples.
you cannot get a ladder high enough to proclaim how "moral" you are, yet, time and time again, conservatives who have made the most noise on this are found to be unfaithful to their wives, playing with children, and taking kickbacks to name a few.
conservatives are the first in line to vote for the death penalty while you claim human life is "sacred".
i don't care how wonderful you claim you are- until you can actually live the words you preach, your words are meaningless.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

simonesdad2008 — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:13:20 -0000

Jarrod it is the same net result. You seem to think your vote has some extra value because you "know" so much. Whether you are totally in love with Father Time or not, he has your vote. That is all he cares about. That's all any candidate cares about. You romanticize democracy. So you and the so called kool aid drinkers are identical in that you ignore the negatives and cast your vote. And what is wrong with liking your candidate? What's wrong with having some enthusiasm? I'm sure you voted for Bush twice. I'm willing to bet you did so with great enthusiasm in 2000. Probably not so much in '04 but he got your vote just the same. That's all that mattered at the end of the day.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

Jarrodm — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:46:13 -0000

I just realized something. Toe, you make a very good point, that Conservatives are not all fuzzy about McCain. That is because we have a brain, and we can see that there are things about McCain that we don't like, or things that we disagree with him on. Unlike you who has her head stuck so far up Barracks ass, that you can't possible see the truth.

I have plenty of things that I can say that I don't like about McCain; I don't have to be a devout kool-aid drinker to vote for him. I just have to realize that given the choices, I'm sure the hell not going to vote for Barrack, but given a better choice them McCain, he would not get my vote either.

So I’m confused, should I be mindless like you and completely dedicated to my candidate, or should I use my own brain, and realize that he is a flawed man. That he is not perfect, but at least he is not going to turn us over to socialism.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

Chris — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:17:19 -0000

Hey Toe, do us a favor and stop spitting out the same crap that comes from the huffingtonpost. Obama's solution to everything is put it under government control, which will just make a further mess of things. I'd like to be able to make decisions for myself, not let the government decide what's best for me. A "one size fits all" approach is a horrible strategy, yet the Dems seem rather happy to keep using it.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

stix1972 — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:40:14 -0000

Wow Toe I must have hit a chord with you. You can look up everything that I said and it is fact, not the talking points you get form the Obama campaign. And yes I listen to Rush, Hannity and other conservative radio shows, but I do not get talking points or anything from them. I have a brain and think for myself. They might agree with me or have the same opinions at times, but I get my owns news and own thoughts. I do not hold water for anyone but myself, McCain, Rush, Hannity, or any of the Cansrvative Talk show hosts. Omst are bloviating fools.

Enough of feeding the trolls. It is like talking to a parrot, just regurgitating the Talking points form the Obama Campaign.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

mike — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:52:17 -0000

Every time I see him speak on TV or hear his voice, going on and on about Change and Washington and that he's got a funny name or even commenting on Georgia/Russia, I just say to myself this guy should just be quiet. He hasn't earned any respect with me, he is totally anti-american (flag pin, bitter, Wright, etc) and he represents everything that is wrong with the Democratic Party, which is Reid, Pelosi, Durbin, Casey, Murtha, etc.

I mean what exactly is the Democratic Platform? Don;t work to hard or we'll tax you more, don't strive to be the best you can be, get lazy, get complacent, don't discipline your children, keep them educated under government education, be a slug and trash your country, because someone else will take care of you and your kids. We'll pay for your healthcare, "educate" your children, give you a retirement (Social Security) and give you a job when you're too ignorant and mindless to do sometihng for yourself. Gee, what a great platform!

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

Reaper — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:22:46 -0000

Toe, might you point me to the time I said he'd be the most anything?

I have a hard time believing you when your ability to parse words seems to be so limited. But I'll bite: you would do well to think more critically of Obama as well. He factually has anti-American connections. He has factually flipped on issues.

I'll agree that Obama's campaign isn't as negative as McCain's. Obama is focusing on injecting the words hope, change and "a new kind of politics" into his speeches. He's busy telling people to inflate their tires rather than securing our near and long term energy future. He's busy campaigning for the presidency in Europe. Hell, he's got to have a team of researchers formulating his political positions around the audiences he's going to have. He didn't define pander, but he's certainly brought new life to the term.

Oh, but I forgot. I'm completely wrong on every front and you're right. Terribly sorry. I'll change my mind now.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

toe — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:17:25 -0000

this is in several parts on youtube..but you can watch it uninterrupted here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/14/iobama-nationi-author-ass_n_118919.html

corsi=slime and slander merchant.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

toe — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 06:39:13 -0000

reaper,

there is not one iota of truth or honesty in your post - everything that i have said regarding mc cain is well documented. pick one and look it up.
it's common for any candidate to move towards the center after the primary process. your comment regarding this shows your limited knowledge.
before hiking up your pants and running off at the mouth you might really investigate that noise that you parrot regarding this "most liberal" obama...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2008/07/is_obama_really_the_most_liber.html
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=08c25e0a-9b88-49a6-97f5-45114f3fff28

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

toe — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:58:20 -0000

taking the gloves off does not mean sitting in the dirt with mc cain or his keepers (who HAVE gone against mc cain's statement that this would be a clean campaign on the issues).. obama does not resort to the slime and slander, lies and innuendo displayed by your sorry self and others. obama is hitting hard on actual FACTUAL issues.
obama is not kerry- you have seen this and it scares you stupid because you have not a leg to stand upon and have not put up a viable candidate worth a toot but rather a stumbling, bumbling old man who has proven again and again that he is not competent for the job. i rather hope mc cain does pick romney (who made his money buying up businesses- throwing out the pre-existing employees, and paying lesser wages to the new and re-hires... romney, who wants to "quadruple the size of gitmo"...nice guy) or lieberman- the elmer fudd of political speaking and the benedict arnold of the democratic party. you can have him.
finally, i hate to break it to you but, 14 year olds don't vote.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

Reaper — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:34:46 -0000

toe, just because you don't believe a piece of information doesn't negate it as a fact. From where I'm sitting, in fact, you vomit up the same rhetoric with McCain that you decry us for using against Obama.

The facts about Obama are simple: he's hard left liberal; he's flipped on a great deal of issues between the primaries and now so as to appeal to a wider audience (you know, normal politician stuff. So much for "a new kind of politics"); he's got some very questionable connections -- not just lobby whore connections, either. Anti-American connections.

Someone like me has two choices: we can not vote for him because of all that stuff, or we can not vote for him due to the relative assurance that he'll be as liberal a president as he was in the primaries.

And here's your response:

You conservatives are all th same. Your vote is AGAINST Obama. Why don't have any passion for your own candidate? Why does Father Time offer so little that you always have to vote against Obama, not for McCain? You evil warmongering conservative pricks are all the same -- resorting to pathetic name calling and distortion of facts to further your claims. You're all idiots, and you make me sick.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

BlackNationalist — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:27:28 -0000

Taking the gloves off? or breaking his promise? He hasn't been elected yet and he is already going back on his word.
And Obama's voting record is one of, if not the most liberal in congress. How exactly will that unite America like he claims? 90%, to be honest that is pretty impressive. How often does Obama vote with party lines? 100%?
The republicans are excited about anything that could keep Obama out of the whitehouse. Going to the convention is pretty much assumed so not going will not be a great way of distancing themselves, there are how many thousands of people at a convention? I'd consider going to the convention but unlike most democrats I have otherthings to do besides sit on my ass.
Obamas tickets were bought up in bulk so 14 year old dems can beg their parents for a couple bucks so they can feel trendy.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

toe — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:40:40 -0000

you obviously have not seen obama's newest ads now playing in indiana.
it's nice to see obama's campaign taking the gloves off.

as far as the third term is concerned, mc cain has voted with bush over 90% of the time... he tossed aside his so-called "maverick" name long ago by going back on his own immigration bill, tax cuts for the wealthy, countless bills relating to the troops, among others...(those that he even bothered to show up for the vote)

and ... republicans are so NOT excited about mc cain, and NOT wishing to be associated with their current representative in the white house or their own convention, last count i heard was 13 republican senators have stated that they will NOT even attend the minneapolis event.

tickets for obama's speech in the stadium in denver were gone in less than 24 hours. over 70,000.

Re: Mindless Fans: The Obama Camp Unleashes Weak Counter Strategy

MReynolds — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:21:27 -0000

Couldn't agree more about the "Third Term" drivel, boring boring boring. All this bluster about donations seems sort of moot. I can't imagine the Obamabots digging much deeper, and if they do, so what? They're unimaginative lemmings that couldn't top the "Celebrity" ad anyway.