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Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

May 15th Prophecy — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:21:52 -0000

I told you the May 15th Prophecy was 100% correct about the CURSE OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION and who would win the Presidency

Do you still disbelieve the 100% accuracy of God Word?

Just as it told you bank after bank would fail !!

Now do you SEE?

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Carsales — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:04:46 -0000

That's the Obama Ticket. Except he left out that those horrible people that make over 250k a year are to blame and should be taxed for their success. Corporations should be taxed at 70+% so the owners of those corporations can not make so much money. They will terminate employees and be in the same line with the rest when their business cant pay the taxes. Anyone owning a home with over 2400 sq. feet will also be required to pay additional taxes. They dont deserve to have that big of a house. That's the Ticket. Vote for the Dem.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

May 15th Prophecy — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:58:36 -0000

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Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Dave. Fouser — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:11:41 -0000

To Blind Faith:
Relative to "an imaginery friend from an old book" - could you mean Allah from the Quran?? Oh, that's right - he's just a black stone talked about by an illiterate mad man called Muhammad from the depths of a cave. The result (versus 66 books over several thousand years by multiple authors) has been abrogated, re-written, and even now talks about killing anyone who doesn't submit to its 7th Century ideology. The alternative to the Quran written by such intellectuals as Moses, Paul, David, etc. referencing the main character in every book from Genesis to the Revelation namely Jesus Christ. His death ,unknown in Genesis 3, describes his crucifixion long before the Romans invented it, and his completed Revelation ends the book, except for the usual maps. The Quran doesn't mention its founder but the Bible does, the son of Abraham by Hagar namely Ishmael, his counter part being Isaac by Sarah. Before you dismiss that "old book" , better read it for it will some day judge you - and you may be " found wanting"! Dave.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Blind faith — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:52:06 -0000

From an outsider perspective, I'm glad that at least one developed country is demanding that all elected officials have an imaginary friend that they read about in some old book! And you can hold your heads up high that his (or whatever's) name is written on your currency!

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

nilla — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:14:55 -0000

JarrodM - you're wrong. Conservatives drink Bud. Foreign beer.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

People's Republic of Rhode Isl — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:47:49 -0000

That video is the most offensive thing I have ever seen. I would state this sarcastically but the words are failing me. It feels like my soul has been sucked out via my anus.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Dave — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:06:09 -0000

I just had to comment about the possibility of this juxtaposition - the "alphabet soup" of sexual mix-ups meeting with the 'towel heads'. Assuming the proliferation of mosques continues, that more Muslims enter political life and the average Muslim metamorphoses from 'model citizen' to flaming fanatic (an odd Islamic change') while law suits pop up like dandelions from CA and MA laws permitting same-sex (party A and party B) marriages, and with the aid of a continuing proliferation of activist judges, sranger 'civil unions', etc. it will be most interesting to see the conflagration of 'honor killings', jihadist activities, and the like. For those seeking some insight into past occurences of this type, read the Koran with particular emphasis on the latter chapters with Muhammad and co. 'feeling their oats'. Dave.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Dave — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:51:57 -0000

reaper;
You might add the remainder of the First Amendment ,"... nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof". What strikes me at this moment is the almost mystical perception libeals have of detecting the initial hints of conservatism, religiosity, and a whiff of right and wrong. Unlike conservatives who blunder blindly past the most outrageous instances of liberalism, the liberal rivals the great white being able to scent a finite parts per million of conservatism at which point they reflexively scream "unfair" much as those old time tag teams. One would have the hapless conservative in a choke hold while the other was kicking him, the ref helplessly counting some infraction on the pair while the other conservative was dutifully standing outside the ring watching with detachment. The upshot - T. Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists was the right of Christians to exercise their faith without interferance from the government versus our current situation with the law standing on its head and "government" rejecting any notion of religion except the state religion, that being Secular Humanism. Doubt me? Check out the Humanist Manifesto One and Two - yes, it is declared by its founders as a religion!! Humanism along with that other religion - Evolution. Check out Charley Darwin's dying thoughts on the matter. Their belief - nothing plus time = our current intricacies such as the human eye and visual perception. Dave.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Guest — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:08:13 -0000

@Jason - maybe not .. i was being sarcastic in case you didn't know. Perhaps we should kill em all since they can't make decisions.! I am sure you would be okay with that!

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Jason Herrboldt — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:06:09 -0000

Fetuses can make decisions?

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Reaper — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:39:00 -0000

I'll work backwards here: there isn't a conservative bastion, because it's too easy to sell socialism to the people. Who in their right mind would choose take control of his own affairs over letting big pappah do it? On paper, it sounds just delightful. The problems come in the execution. Socialism just doesn't work all that well. It is the reason for the belief that governments are always in a state of growth; the US didn't start growing until the seed of socialism was planted. We were doing just fine before then, but things got tough and big pappah promised to make everything all right. Now here we are today. Except we know that big pappah's a complete idiot...and some people actually WANT him to take on more responsibility.

Seriously, with what you're saying about politicians being in bed with lobbies, do you REALLY want to give them more broad reaching authority to do as they wish with our money? They're finding plenty of financial sink-holes already. They won't just divert funds once we give them more stuff to spend our money on; they'll require more of us.

Which brings on the other issue: we know how the government currently is. I'm talking about how the government *should* be. You say the machine's too big to break. Well, I respectfully disagree. The problem is that we're too disorganized and divisive to unite over any issues. If we could organize and demand reform, it would happen. We just aren't yelling loud enough.

PS: I, perhaps even "we," don't expect anything of McCain except to tow the party line, which at least runs perpendicular to our views rather than flatly against them.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

simonesdad2008 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:53:47 -0000

Reaper,

The problem with taxes and government spending is that people have the false expectation that the government should run like a business; a small business according to conservatives. You will always be disappointed and dismayed if you think like that. There are no businesses that can literally print their own money or borrow without limits or expectation of paying back. Remember when Clinton and Gingrich got into a pissing match back in the 90's and the federal government "shut down?" What really happened? A few national parks didn't open for a day or two. That's like threatening Microsoft by shutting down their employee break room. And if you think we the people have control of taxes by our vote and elected officials...well let's just say that's an interesting interpretation on your part. Our democracy was long ago perverted by special interests and big money. Your earnest, fiscal and social conservative candidate doesn't get elected to federal office without plugging into the party machine. I'm talking both parties here. On the state and local level some outsiders get in here and there. Think Jesse Ventura. Even self-financed candidates can not break the machine. It is too difficult and too expensive for most honest and earnest candidates to get into Congress. You've said it yourself and many have echoed your sentiments, McCain is your lesser of two evils candidate. You have the expectation that he will be fiscally conservative by virtue of the (R) next to his name even though you know it's not true. McCain has sold out that (R) time and time again. What in the world makes you think he won't do it to you again? Bush, while socially conservative by every measure left the Evangelicals in the dust once elected and presided over government spending that would make a democrat blush. He had an (R) next to his name too (one could argue what that (R) stood for). Remember Bush Sr. and "read my lips?" Keep in mind, every big time politician's job is to get elected, period. There is very little pretense left about that anymore. You may be right that the line was crossed back in the 30's somewhere but you can't put toothpaste back in the tube.

And just for grins, can any of you cons out there give me an example of a conservative government or society that is out there. One that unfailingly adheres to your social and fiscal pillars and plans. You guys are always screaming about socialism and calling people socialists. Well there are some socialist countries out there that we know about. Where is that lean, mean conservative society that you aspire to? Just curious.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Reaper — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:13:08 -0000

simonesdad, you have a fundamentally flawed philosophy on the way the government should be run. We DO have control of our tax dollars; those who misappropriate our money should be held accountable -- not through revolt, but through the electoral system.

It's easy to say that government spending always goes up, but if you look at a chart of the size of our government as a percentage of our GDP, the line is completely flat along the X-axis until the 1930's when the new deal kicks in. That is when government spending starts constantly going up.

Your theory of taxation is also highly debatable; the conservative theory is that lowering taxes will basically leave more money in the pockets of the people. They'll turn around and spend that money in the private sector, most of which has small taxes on it. So instead of simply giving a substantial portion straight to the government, it gets as much or more money from various sales taxes in addition to the economic benefits of increased spending. Finally, the government gets more taxes from the business that grew as a result of the spending. That isn't to say that I'm right and you're wrong, but there is hardly a scientific law of economics. We have to try stuff and see what works, and Bush's tax laws haven't made the economy suffer in the least.

Deregulation of government (which includes the repeal of social programs) would certainly be a tough transition, but it would be beneficial in the long term. All regulation does is push business to unregulated markets with the exception of the one or two companies with enough pre-existing clout to stay above water. What's that spell for the people? Low or no choice, and a huge potential for shortages and price spikes. Deregulation will put many more jobs onto our soil, which will help those who will suffer under the lack of welfare programs.

I will, however, agree that spending under Bush has been ridiculous. Bush can only approve spending bills, however, after they've been approved by Congress. Both parties have failed in the fiscal responsibility category. During these elections, if you have a Congressional candidate running on a platform of fiscal responsibility, let him in. I know I will.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

toe — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:32:41 -0000

as far as conservative politics here- it ran it's course, and, as always, when one political party is seen as a failure the pendulum swings the other way.

the bush administration has shredded what was the republican party. and made fiscal responsibiltiy a joke. (not to mention expanding the powers of the presidency, collaborated with the justice department to engage in illegal activities, approved torture, rendition, illegal wire taps and so much more.) there is good reason why republicans are distancing themselves from him.

..if and when the democrats are seen to be headed in the wrong direction, they too will be removed. it's the way things work.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

simonesdad2008 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:48:18 -0000

Let me ask you, when you go to the store and buy an item do you tell the store what to do with the money you are paying them? Do you say you better not be funding some golden parachute with the money I'm spending on this sweater? Tax money is money you are paying into a system. Once it is paid your say over its use is pretty much out of your hands. In its purest form once upon a time taxes were certainly more efficiently spent and collected at a lower percentage but even then we had zero say about how it was spent. Either way whether we raise or cut taxes we operate in a deficit and spending always goes up. It will cost you more money next year to live exactly the same as you did this year. Under Bush we have cut taxes and increased spending. That's like taking a pay cut at work and then the next day going out and buying a more expensive home. It defies logic. That's not to say that we should not hold our government accountable for their spending but there has not been a successful tax revolt in this country since the Boston Tea Party. We could cut every social program that ever existed and that money would be absorbed somewhere else in government. Even if it wasn't there is that pesky little deficit still left to contend with. Bottom line it would have zero impact on your paycheck which is what we are all looking for. Not to mention the social impact of no social programs which could actually be more expensive to all of us in the long run. I think of America like a celebrity or the super rich. Celebrities have mortgages and bills like you and me. They also have pet psychics and ten thousand square foot homes for two. Their money is spent wisely and foolishly. I bet all of us could probably say the same.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Reaper — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:22:53 -0000

Toe commenting on the grammar of others. It brings to mind a funny little quip I recently read: it's surprising that you haven't ripped a hole in the space irony continuum. At best, you can fall back on the argument that you've up and lost your shift key, but still, let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone. If you can't exercise at least arguably good grammar, then don't go telling others to correct theirs.

MOVING ON.

Public roads are socialist? Public POLICE forces are socialist? Are you completely stupid or just hoping nobody will call your bluff? To be fair, a mentally challenged lay person could see the general definition of socialism -- public or governmental administration of the means of production and distribution -- as encompassing the road system, but the POLICE force? Give me a break.

You're also completely off base in asserting that Jarrod and his ilk are being left behind. Conservatism is making a comeback in many European countries. Italy is the current front runner; she is currently in the process of systematically deporting every illegal immigrant who dared venture into the big boot. To be blunt, socialism is in decline, not conservatism. Don't worry, though. At least you know you're completely ignorant of global affairs now. Ciao!

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

JarrodM — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:53:53 -0000

Please your arrogance is only surpassed by your self indignation. I hate to tell you I do more for my fellow man then you could ever hope to do in your little utopia dream world.

I'm a volunteer fire fighter in my local community putting in over 70 hours a month. I'm a member of the National Guard and just return from a two year stint in Iraq. So please don't even bother trying to lecture me with your dribble.

I have no problem paying taxes so the Government can fund roads, and water, or other real Community and national projects. I do how ever have an issue paying into a government safety net for the stupid, and terminally lazy.

Congress just voted in a 300Billion legislation so bail out these people who can't pay their mortgage. I know how dare I everyone had a right to a home. NO THEY DON'T. And they sure as hell don't have a right to use my money to pay for it.

But since they did not plan a head to make sure they had plenty of savings set aside in case of hard times, or they where just to stupid to realize they could not afford what they where buying, we now have to bail them out again. So yes I get my underwear in a knot when Barrack runs around telling the world that we are ready to be socialist just like the rest of them. Promising the Stupid and the lazy more of the hard workers money.

Look I'm sure your a swell gal, and you mean well, but the bottom line is if you want to help people then by all means go out and help people, there are plenty of charities that would love for you to volunteer. But do it with your time or money not with the rest of ours.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

toe — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:58:58 -0000

please note Jarrod's use of the english language- a perfect example of my previous post... amazing how some revel in their ignorance. reminds me of a bumper sticker i saw today:

"You voted for Bush? How embarrassing."

and, Jarrod, how base of you to suggest that anyone not participating in your type of preferred amusements would automatically make them "fridge" (i am just going to assume he tried to say frigid and not calling me a refrigerator) , no "fun" (if your meaning of fun is to hurt others- i guess i am not at all "fun"), or a "prude" (an odd name-call coming from someone who does not just live in the past, he lives in a land of "never was").

Jarrod, when was the last time you got out in your street and repaired the road? when was the last time you asked for police assistance? i think you had best stop using those freeways since these are yet another form of "socialism". please do not even give consideration towards using local or national parks. if your house catches fire, put it out yourself. amazing...just amazing the ignorance that is displayed by your comments.

now you have your underwear in a knot because obama has gained the respect and captured the imagination of not just germany, but europe, the middle east, and the far corners of the world.

as you can see, folks...Jarrod here is yet another of the left-behinds - the world is quickly passing him by.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

JarrodM — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:37:18 -0000

In other words your not much fun, fridge, and a prude.

Any way who cares what the Germans think of Barack, if I wanted to live in a country with an acepted German leader then I would move to Germany. It is a fun place to visit, but again like most Nations on that side of the world, way to socialist for my tast.

What Bling, not getting enough from the Government alreayd, need it to carry your sorry ass the rest of your life.

You Liberals, make me sick that you need Government to hold your hand. Maybe if you where not to bussy with your noses so high up in the air, you would see that the working class that you want to support you, is getting a bit tired of it.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

toe — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:46:28 -0000

estimates are that over a quarter of a million german people listened avidly, stood and cheered dramatically in favor of obama's words today.

it's no small wonder why mc cain has practically twisted himself into a pretzel over the interest the rest of the world have in our next president: barack obama. won't it be wonderful to be proud of our president once again!

oh, and mr. uc, you are welcome. additionally, i must correct you on one item once again... since you are the age of my son - you'll understand: i am not arrogant, just smarter, more experienced, better educated, more traveled, more artistic, and have a sense of humor that does not require foul language, racial, religious, or sexual stereotypes and put-downs of another human being to be funny.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

bling — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:43:29 -0000

that video is great, nice job, lets stick it to those a-hole republicans in November.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

Guest — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:28:16 -0000

@toe - you are so arrogant but thank you for the grammar lesson. I look up to you for taking a stand here and teaching all of us how to write properly. Way to go Toe. Perhaps we should set up a webinar and you can go through the basics? I'm serious and I am sure you will get a lot of participants.

Know yoo kan goe bak too my.barrackobama and kontinu two spred ur librl retorik.

: )

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

toe — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:37:31 -0000

i understand occasional inadvertent typographical errors- occasionally we all, in our haste make spelling errors... however, it is alarming how many comments here (and this includes the "host" ) have managed to reach the age of adulthood but never did grasp the basic tools of english...and before you get all in a knot because i neither capitalize nor punctuate properly, this is by design, not ignorance... i know how- and if i needed a proper resume' sent- this would be addressed accordingly...but i digress.

the title of this post, for example... naturally should be: "...why i am voting democratic" or even "...why i am voting for the democrat".
right wing talk show personalities think it amusing to use "democrat in place of democratic to show a lack of respect for those holding views that differ from their own- what it actually shows is that these individuals, rather than trying to actually address serious issues that face this country and seek thoughtful answers as to what we might do as concerned americans- they would rather create division and distance, ridicule rather than reason. this is not just unfortunate, it is precisely the reason (this is the part where you hard-core conservatives need to listen to gain some understanding) why the obama campaign has generated the tremendous interest that it has - interest from across the political spectrum... because people are fed up with these divisive tactics being used constantly- name calling, misrepresentations, put-downs, ridicule, race-baiting, and flat out lies just to get one rung taller on their ambition ladder.

but... back to my original reason for commenting to this post... other readers, please note: if you expect to be taken seriously (note here i did not say "serious") it would be wise for those of you to (not "too"...different word...different meaning) check their (not "there") writings...you're (not your) apt to show that you just might know (not "no") what you are speaking about no matter whose (not who's) comment or which (not "witch") post effected (not "affected") you.

carry on.

Re: Why this conservative is voting democrat in this year’s 2008 Presidential Election

The world you want — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:44:04 -0000

Your so right. We need more tax es, I don't pay enough. We should ask the Government to spend more and aid none documented individuals coming to the riches nation in the world. We should release all the individuals in our prisons and pray for their souls hoping GOD will save them from Hell. African Americans should always be given first choice on all jobs. We should always support discrimination.. We should be proud that we are the only nation in the world that discriminates using the rule of law . We need less science and math in our schools because it is against the word of GOD.
Speaking of GOD I listened to a christian preacher on TV that speachs to GOD. We need leaders like him . The fish people in this country need to be in charge.

I just wanted you to know I support you totally.